Monday, August 25, 2008

Saying What Really Needs to Be Said, Here.

How about the whole Hillary Clinton & her ridiculous delegates & supporters? All along, I’ve been thinking, c’mon this is a media-driven much-to-do-about-nothing. But now, as the convention is nigh, polls are still suggesting the Hillary Clinton supporters are not on board. What is the deal with that? I mean, I know what the deal is. But these people, if they’re considering voting for McCain, are zealots in the worst sense of the word.

Now - before any Hillary Haters decide to jump in a pile on and find some sort of kindred discussion, take a breath. Let me be very clear: this is not about Hillary at all. This is about those folks that can't get over it.

All along, I’ve always said that people who are opposed to Hillary Clinton tend to oppose her in a very rabid, irrational way that, really, defies logic. And I’ve generally defended her along those lines. But I’m finally going use that same descriptor about her supporters. Those people really, really think that this was our one chance to get a woman in the White House. Or that her experience so uniquely qualifies her for the presidency. Or that Barack Obama ran such an unbelievably dirty campaign. So much so that they’re willing to vote to continue policies of war, appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe vs. Wade, extend Bush tax cuts, etc. etc. etc. Bascially, flush down the toilet everything that Hillary Clinton ostensibly stands for stands for in what is probably the most defining presidential election of our times, to make a point. Are they really that detached from reality? Is the world really no larger than their own hurt feelings? This is why Republicans call Democrats angry, whiners, and "victims." Your candidate didn't win. Pick yourself up off the matt and do what you can do to make this country better, for the sake of children in poverty, a groaning natural world, and huge, suffering continents; for God's sake don't put a Republican back in the White House.

My God. I mean, really.

7 comments:

Pat said...

Anyone who picks their candidate based on things other than what they stand for are morons. Those things can influence your decision, depending upon the stark realities of the choice.

If your choice is between peaches and oranges and you can't stand rind, don't make a protest vote just because the nectarine isn't one of the choices. You'll end up with rind, for everyone.

Stupid fuckers.

Stephen Cummings said...

I got tired of being considered an Obamamaniac simply because I support Obama. Early on an attack from Hillary Clinton's supporters was the simple "you like him because he's a rock star." Sorry, no. He's the candidate I'm backing, flaws and all. He's not perfect. He's just the best. And, it so happens, he's the best presidential candidate I can remember in my lifetime.

I get the idea that people see in their candidate the last, best hope for America. This comes up about every four years, and every candidate has their share of supporters who believe that about their chosen candidate. I remember the cult of personality of Perot... remember those guys?

With Hilary, the confluence of history-in-the-making mixed with the dream/false nostalgia of the Clinton-era '90s pushed a lot folks over the edge of sanity.

Mighty Tom said...

It really is scary. Gone like the wind are the days when I would wrongly take comfort in thinking - this can't possibly happen. As with Kerry and Bush 2. Gore and Bush 1 was weird. But Kerry and Bush 2 was amazing. Listening to folks like Mixdorf and Dan - thinking those guys are smart - they gotta be right - there is excitement - this has got to work out.

Wrong.

This time is truly scary. More of a "you'd like to think" attitude on my part, but nothing but nothing is for sure this time around. The polls shift by the second!! Seriously, the way it is - some video, some sound recording can be released to the world, opinions follow like a bolt of lightning - and the polls will shift.

Now back to your point about hurt feelings and such - that is most disturbing. And it is so true - babies grow up to be babies. Ultimate babies playing in the ultimate toyhouse. I really hope Obama baby gets the vote, but it will be scary.

The delegate and the convention and yes! the supporters of Hilary are nuts! Your line: "Those people really, really think that this was our one chance to get a woman in the White House" if this is their basis for still being upset and actually consider NOT voting for Obama - then that is the most ass-backwards anti-woman STUPID stance ever in the history of social progress. The headlines now about the old tensions resurfacing between the Clinton camps and the Obama camps - I am hoping that it is mostly the media fueling that. Hilary AND Bill do need to take some responsibility for the feelings they have generated - it really is time, to steal a line from you know what, for the Clintons to show their quality - or fall burning into a pit of their blinded supporters.

Stephen Cummings said...

It's not exactly helpful when NPR runs lazy stories like this:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93947082

where a couple of Hillraisers are quoted that "a lot of Democrats will vote for McCain."

Dan said...

In the big scheme of things, she requitted (proper use?) herself very well last night, though one has to wonder whether it was worth all the speculation and rampant distraction for one twenty-minute explosion of amour-propre and solitary focus on someone who is NOT the Democratic nominee for president.

Nice speech, but Jesus almighty.

Dan said...

And Stephen: as for NPR, yes - YES. Shame on them on their fanning of these flames. And today, listening - they STILL WON'T GIVE IT UP.

Now, tonight, maybe there will be a huge surprise (to me) and the Hillary freaks will make a scene. THAT would be news. But even then, I would have to wonder if the media would have been responsible, in part.

Dan said...

And, of course, it was much ado about nothing.

But during the course of all the hoopla, the irreplaceable voices of meaningful political discourse were not heard.

Prompting Yankee owner George Steinbrenner to fire manager Lou Pinella.