Tuesday, August 07, 2007

HPATOOTP and Powell

Finally got out to the latest Harry Potter movie. Both Sharon & I thought, contrary (it appears) to the vast majority of reviewers, that it was the first step backwards in the ever-goodening franchise. It wasn't so much that there were glaring flaws in the general filmmaking, only that they finally have gotten to that point in the story where the plot is no longer linear - or at least easily portrayed in linear fashion (e.g. we need to solve this, then this will become clear, after which we can do this, etc.). There was just more subtley, nuance, and unspoken intricacy in the book than could be covered in a couple of hours of screen time. To me, it seemed that vast sections of necessary exposition and character/plot development were sacrificed (in favor of gratuitous reaction shots, Sharon would add). Such is the fate of the book reader. My impression would be that certain plot developments or character actions would seem inexplicable or jumpy, without that exposition. But that's obviously not the case, as the film was received quite warmly by Joe Q filmgoer. I don't know. I have a tough time separating myself from the notion that a faithful reproduction of what I read is what needs to be in a book-inspired movie, and just accept movies for what they are: 90-150 minutes of self-contained art.

I didn't intend to say that much.

On the book: Down the Great Unknown: John Wesley Powell's 1869 Journey of Discovery and Tragedy Through the Grand Canyon was something I stumbled across as a result of my trip down into the very nearby canyon country of Escalante, last year. Like Mixdorf, I really groove on true stories of great feats of endurance and adventure; though there is definitely a tricky art involved with telling the tales. To what extent does the author fill in the blanks and make assumptions in order to paint a more descriptive, colorful picture? The success with which an author/researcher achieves this balance becomes at least as imporant as actual writing ability. And, dedicating years of life to reasearching colorful characters in history - I can imagine it would be hard for one to not start feeling as if they truly know these guys, and justified in making such assumptions. But, in the case of this book, the author (a former writer for the Boston Globe) opts for ONLY detailing that which is outlined in a series of journals by various members of a crew of 10 guys that set out to make the first boat trip through the 800-900 miles of the Green and Colorado Rivers over a period of 99 days. Through those journals alone, mind-blowing acts of courage, resourcefulness, and hardiness are portrayed; however -perhaps to fill space, he goes on sometimes nearly inexplicable tangents; and he expounds endlessly on the dangers of white water rafting and general river lore, sometimes stringing together a succession of simile, example, and expounding that would make Herman Melville blush. Overall, a gripping read; a real page-turner. Though it could have been a good 100 pages shorter and I would have been able to come away with an appropriate level of appreciation for the power of the mighty Colorado and the accomplishment of these men, all (but Powell) now lost to obscurity of the ages.

14 comments:

Stephen Cummings said...

Well, my delimma with this installment of Harry Potter is that I thought The Order of the Pheonix was the weakest of the books, but one of the stronger movies.

Dan said...

Are you challenging me....TO A DUEL?!?!?!?

Dan said...

Actually, I can't say I disagree about your assessment of the book. It seems to me that it is a sort of necessary framework to set the scene for the remainder of the series, which is decidedly less formulaic than the first three books.

Stephen Cummings said...

No, no duel at all, just the usual conflicts about books versus film in the realm of art.

Dan said...

Do I detect a streak of yellow running down thy back?

Thou leathern-jerkin, crystal-button, knot-pated, agatering, puke-stocking, caddis-garter, smooth-tongue, Spanish pouch!

(thank you, Shakespearean insulter: http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/)

Mighty Tom said...

I thought the latest movie was excellent. I thought it was subject to a brand of "clever" film-making not present in the other four films. I was glad to see them at the Dursely's in the beginning, an unfortunate miss in Goblet of Fire, I thought Dumbledore was improved from the past two films, and the pace of the film, when you consider how much was included, was excellent.

Of course I have only seen the movie once, but really cannot wait unitl I can see it again.

My least favorite of the movies was The Chamber of Secrets.

Stephen Cummings said...

Okay then. Thanks, MT, for supporting the Stephen view. At least that's how I'm choosing to interpret your comments.

What I'm getting at is the typical issue of reading a book, which is filled with detail and flourish, then seeing the filmic counterpart, which is typically flourish without the depth.

In this case, the book kicked me in the ass nightly, with scene after scene of Hogwarts profs being interviewed, antagonized and threatened, interpsersed with Harry getting everything taken away and his nuts kicked in. First I got it, then I GOT IT, then I GOT IT ALREADY JUST KILL HER. Now, yes, I reflect that this is was the point, and that we do really leave the book feeling Harry's pain. I'm still feeling it. The seventh book brought this to the level the fifth book ramped us up for.

My experience of the film was different than yours. I felt it handled the shift in tone nicely, and managed to comprise the characters well without feeling labored.

Dan said...

Of course, I really don't see this as any kind of serious disagreement...but some of the specifics, for me:

I didn't love the casting for Luna. She wasn't near homely enough, and they did very little to get across the idea of "looney."

I also didn't love the casting for Umbridge. Not nearly toad-like enough.

Centaurs: really glossed over, including the whole character of Firenze.

No quidditch.

Marginalization of Malfoy & co. as a major player, though I realize that's going on in the books to an extent, as well.

What I DID like:
- I agree, PMix, that Dumbledore portrayal is an improvement in this film.
- I actually thought the ministry scene at the end was an improvement over the book (though showing a few of the really cool, odd rooms would have been nice to see). In the book, I remember wading through what seemed like endless pages of Harry's crew stupifying and getting stupified, objects exploding around them, and running through halls and in and out of doorways like the cast of Looney Toones in a hotel hallway. It was too much. I thought the film condensed the events in a nice way.

Pat said...

T'was MT that liked DumblyDore in the new movie. I haven't seen the movie yet.

I am halfway through GoF reading, having gone through the first three in the last two weeks.

Couple little notes from that:

Book 3, during a period when the Ministry is tracking down dark artifacts it's mentioned that the Malfoys have a secret room under their living room - one presumes this is the same room in Book 7.

Book 4 has Dumblydore mentioning that his brother Aberforth may not be able to read, in response to Hagrid being outed as a half-giant. No love lost there.

Dan said...

Interesting.

Hopefully you're getting more out of your journey than just those two items.

I'm about 1/3 of the way through Umberto Eco's "Baudolino," but just found out that "Children of Hurin," which I've had on reserve for about a year, is being transfered to my library. Don't want to bail on Eco, but what can you do? I'm going to be hard-pressed to get through what is almost certainly going to be a VERY DENSE book in less than the three weeks they give me.

Stephen Cummings said...

Of the movie, I did like the image of Azkaban, but I can't remember if the books gave us a description of the place. I guess I wasn't expecting a big shafty triangle. (What's that all about?)

Pat said...

I can't wait to experience the 'big shafty triangle'.

Pat said...

And yes, I'm getting more out of them than that - it's just those things that are clearly returned to in the later books that stand out, and so I mention them.

Dan said...

Leave it to HP comment to reach the upper teens.

Not so for ol' one arm.