Thursday, February 09, 2006

Weighing In on the Mohammad Cartoon

It began with an email exchange with Mixdorf in which I suggested that:

"On one hand, you have the incredibly sad irony people protesting the depiction of Mohammad as a terrorist by burning & killing. On the other hand, I wonder what the reaction of many Catholics would have be, were there to have been, amidst the Catholic Priest/child scandal a political cartoon of a slathering, sleazy-looking Pope chasing around little kids. Or Jesus doing the same."

He replied:

"There may have been, though perhaps with some level of decorum.

There's no excuse for burning and pillaging, and they're not really helping their cause by doing so, but on the other hand there's little editorial value to something as crude as the turban shaped-like-a-bomb cartoon."


To which I now add, at the risk of invoking the wrath of the Muslim and Western world:

The appropriateness of running the cartoon originally can be debated. The fact that certain media will not show it now is absolute BS, because is TOTALLY relevant to the story OF the controversy. One might even say it is a perfect example of the oft & too often remarked claim, "...then the terrorists have already won."

Lord knows I try to call U.S. culture & policy out when I disagree with it, but it does appear that currently, the consensus of “decorum” among the masses in the Muslim world really, really appears to be lagging behind the rest of the major world religions. I acknowledge that they feel that they are under constant attack (both figuratively and literally) by the West in a number of issues, but in instances like this, all the traditional and almost defensible reasons for taking up arms (economic destitution & loss of land, life, or liberty) are stripped away and what we're left with is people that just flip out far too easily. If suppose, were I were to come from a group of people that was systematically beaten down and oppressed over a series of generations, perhaps I would be so near a boiling point that nearly anything could send me over the top. I don't and can't know, and something like that may certainly be at work here.

But from an intellectual standpoint, I can't see how anyone that looks at the sort of culture of violence that seems to be encouraged and perpetuated amongst many voices that represent the Muslim faith could possibly come away with a hopeful view of their future. Of course, I can't see how anyone in this country that supports Republican policy can see it as a hopeful view of their future either, and people over here are a lot more at liberty to spend leisurely, comfortable hours thinking about such things.

6 comments:

Pat said...

1.3 Billion Muslims in the world as of 1998 (quickest stat I could find).

How many of them are violently protesting? 100,000? 1,000,000?

The first is .01% of the population.
The second is .1% of the population.

Zoinks.

US population - 293,655,404
US prison population - 205,335

Percentage of US Citizens in prison? .07%, or somewhere between the number of people listed above.

The above is a bit of a ridiculous argument, but I think this all needs to be kept in perspective.

No excuse for violence because someone said something you don't like.

Dan said...

An interesting take, but not necessarily an apples to apples comparison. One would assume there are Muslims committing crimes other than acts of violent protest. There are very few Western citizens violently protesting over religious issues. Two hundred years ago? Five hundred years ago? Lots. Hence, "Grow up, Muslim religion."

What's the percentage of at .07% of our population in prison for non-violent, pot-related reasons? Take them out. What's it down to? .04%? I could check out NORML.org for the exact stats, but I'm not going there from my work computer...

Pat said...

Understood, as I said - a ridiculous argument.

Grow up for sure. This is a culture that in some areas still cuts off people's hands for theft, stones people as punishment, and feels that if you kill my brother, I kill your brother.

Aaron said...

Dan, dead on about media outlets not showing them now. They are absolutely relevant.

Why is it some issues are so clear-cut for those of us who seem to have half a brain? So the cartoons shouldn't have been published, but that is not even a fraction of the wrong of what has ensued.

It sounds like at least some of the violence stems from the fact that the image of Mohammed is not even to be depicted. Jews have never rioted because someone ate ham. I have never been stoned because I don't genuflect in front of the alter when I visit a Catholic church. Ever witness a violent riot over an episode of South Park?

Of course, as we all know, this is a small percentage of the Muslim faith, but what a percentage it is.

Dan said...

Aye, what a percentage.

Of course, we all know there's probably a fairly disturbing percentage of "Christians" in this country, particularly in the South (think NASCAR), that would be more than willing to take of violent arms in pursuit of any one of a number of hairbrained, half-baked aims if they had the consent or even tolerance of their government.

What if there was a movement to kill all Muslims in this country and we had reason to believe that the government would allow it. How many wackos would join in the "crusade?" .01% to .01% seem too far-fetched?

Our individual beliefs and values may not be any more progressive, just our institutions.

C.F. Bear said...

Never saw the cartoon, and glad that I did not. Sounds like a whole lot of drama. I wish peace for the world!